Saturday, August 20, 2022

Criminalizing the Subjective: FBI Proudly Arrests 3 Kids for Talking Out Their Asses

(archived from November 20, 2012)

by Scott Creighton

They had posted “radical content’ and expressed “extremist views” on Facebook, but aside from that, they had actually done nothing at all… and they face 15 years in prison.

They face federal time for a subjective interpretation of their publicly stated viewpoints…

and that is where we are today

The FBI has been given a lot of grief for creating terror plots and then finding a couple of young half-wits to entrap in the process. Several of their big “foiled plots” have been tossed out in court rightly leaving the FBI looking like nothing more than a band of roving sophomoric marketing directors trying to create “terror” where there is none.

Having been exposed for their entrapment and fear-mongering on MSM outlets as far and wide as MSNBC and Fox News, they seem to have decided to make a little shift in their operational tactics.

The latest trick they are using is troubling on many different fronts. Even more so than their efforts to take semi-morons and put fake bombs in their hands so they can arrest them. And it’s something that everyone needs to take notice of.

The Guardian has an article reporting on yesterday’s announcement by the FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimiller in California that they have thwarted yet another “terrorist plot” involving 4 men who planned on going on a “jihad”

What’s troubling is, there is no report of weapons or plans or fake FBI bombs or cell phones being dialed…

… this arrest is of people, three of them young men 23 years old or younger, who said they “wanted” to go to Afghanistan and fight against the U.S. occupation.

That’s it. That’s what they did that the FBI would have you believe is worth 15 years of their lives. They said they “wanted” to do something.

 

These young, dumb kids, face 15 years in prison for saying they would like to go to Afghanistan and fight against an illegal occupation. They hadn’t done it, they had no weapons, they didn’t even say they wanted to attack civilians.. they simply talked out of their collective asses about “wanting” to go join a resistance in another country and more than likely they were simply saying these things in order to impress the FBI informant who was leading them to make the statements.

“According to a federal complaint unsealed on Monday during their initial appearances, Sohiel Omar Kabir, 34, introduced two other California men to the radical Islamist doctrine of Anwar al-Awlaki, a deceased al-Qaida leader.

The two, Ralph Deleon, 23, and Miguel Alejandro Santana Vidriales, 21, converted to Islam in 2010 and began engaging with Kabir and others online in discussions about jihad, including posting radical content on Facebook and expressing extremist views in comments.” Guardian

Radical content and extremist views… both of these were used in 2003 and late 2002 to describe those of us who opposed the illegal war against Iraq.

Radical content and extremist views… both of these are used today to describe people who know that we have been lied to about 9/11 and something vastly different than the official story happened that day. Most Americans understand that the official story is bullshit.

Radical content and extremist views… used to be used to describe those of us who warned that the global financial elites are vying to take over control of the global political sphere… but now the entire country and most of Europe know this to be entirely true.

The Swiss Federal Institute (SFI) in Zurich released a study entitled “The Network of Global Corporate Control” that proves a small consortiums of corporations – mainly banks – run the world. A mere 147 corporations which form a “super entity” have control 40% of the world’s wealth; which is the real economy. These mega-corporations are at the center of the global economy. The banks found to be most influential include:

• Barclays
• Goldman Sachs
• JPMorgan Chase & Co
• Vanguard Group
• UBS
• Deutsche Bank
• Bank of New York Melon Corp
• Morgan Stanley
• Bank of America Corp
• Société Générale

Criminalizing the subjective: who determines what is “radical” and what constitutes “extremist views”? Anything that is apart from the status quo qualifies does it not?

How long till writing that the Federal Reserve must not be a for-profit institution is deemed an “extremist view” worthy of 15 years in prison?

How long till saying that 9/11 was an inside job garners the death penalty?

This is well beyond the slippery slope cliche we hear all too often, this is the greased cliff on route to abject totalitarianism and thought police.

The Guardian article, though it doesn’t come right out and say it, makes it clear that the federal complaint doesn’t actually detail any real action taken by these blustering kids… all they did was say what they “wanted” to do:

In one online conversation, Santana told an FBI undercover agent he wanted to commit jihad and expressed interest in a jihadist training camp in Jalalabad, Afghanistan.

The complaint alleged the men went to a shooting range several times, including a trip on 10 September 2012 when Deleon told a confidential FBI source he wanted to be on the frontlines overseas and use the explosive C-4 in an attack. Santana agreed.

I wanna do C-4s if I could put one of these trucks right here with my, with that. Just drive into, like, the baddest military base,” Santana said, according to the complaint, adding that he wanted to use a large quantity of the explosive.” Guardian

How many young dumb 21 year olds talk out their asses about all the stuff they “want” to do? And how many of them actually do anything close to what they say?

They didn’t buy bombs or get them handed to them by the FBI.

They didn’t take a cell phone and place a call.

They didn’t even plan to blow up the Federal Reserve Bank like the NSA’s “Anonymous” claimed before the election.

What they did was talk out their asses to an FBI informant who then had his buddies arrest them for the “crime”

Is that the definition of terrorism these days? Is that as bad as this country has become? Fight them over here so the troops don’t have to fight them over there?

If you arrested every 21 year old for every crime they said they “wanted” to do, you wouldn’t have 2 million in the prison systems, you would have about 200 million. And maybe that’s the point. After all, the prison industrial complex does have all those contracts to maintain 90% occupancy of their gulags…

This is a new low even by the FBI standards and a very dangerous precedent being set by them.

Think about this for a second: There is no real evidence presented at this point that these kids even committed this “crime”.. all they have is an informant who SAYS they SAID they WANTED to do something that isn’t really terrorism in the first place.

“He said, She said” from an informant who has a vested interest in helping the FBI build a case, as the standard of proof in our justice system?

Really?

Why don’t we just toss those kids in a pond and if they sink and drown they’re innocent and if they float and swim they’re terrorists? That’s where we are now. Let’s not kid ourselves. It’s the Salem Witch Trials all over again. So if you see something, say something, right? Snitch out the extremists and get a $30 gift card from Wal-Mart.

Jesus

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